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kelipani

Joined: 15 Jan 2008

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:16 am

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Predestination and God’s foreknowledge - to get it clear in my mind: Take for example Judas – by God’s foreknowledge he knew Judas heart and will (his character?), therefore, predestined him to betray Christ. Question does God predestined only a few (for His plan to be made) or is everyone predestined to do something.

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Preacher

Joined: 09 Dec 2007

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:21 pm

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When God decided to create this world, He immediately knew the actions and intentions of every thing and every one. This, of course, included Judas. As God 'sees' Judas plotting and acting "from the foundation of the world," He chooses him as the betrayer. Judas' election to this position was conditional on his actions, not God unconditionally coercing Judas in his actions - the election is based on God's foreknowledge, not on His overt, coercive activity. This is the CORE difference between the Augustinian-Calvinistic (Reformed) view and the scriptural view.

It looks as though God's plan to accomplish His primary will in creating* involves only a few (relatively speaking) people and groups in service to that plan. But as God knows the actions and intentions of all, we may say that God has predestined all, whether to glory or punishment, but again, it is conditional on each one's free-will actions that He has know of from the beginning.

* To have a people for eternity to manifest His glory among and to bestow His love upon fully.

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